I purchased this saddle and sold the horse I bought to use it on. It has been in my garage covered with broomstick in the stirrups. THis is what I have in the saddle. I also have a neoprine pony saddle brand new and has only been on a pony once. It is brown. Paid 350.00 for it brand new. I also have several used saddles for sale. Trying to move anything we dont use. call 931-580-1201